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The comments section below ended up being a rather nice illustration of precisely the thing I'm warning about with taking propaganda at face value.

DJ is making claims below about finding "50+ files" that are "incorrect and changed", "key features left out", "warped", etc. He uses this as proof of someone intentionally going in and messing with files. When asked to provide proof he clams up a bit and only wants to talk over "secure channels".

The key points to this narrative are:

1. A massive number of files are messed up

2. This includes even popular files by established devs, like the Not-A-Glock

3. This "file poisoning" is being done intentionally by nefarious forces

As with a lot of the claims I discuss in my original post, this narrative is neither technologically or sociologically plausible.

1. It's not technically plausible because there is no known method for a nefarious actor to "poison" somebody else's Odysee release, e.g. the Not-A-Glock. To be clear, this would mean hacking Odysee and modifying someone's claim. Everything about Odysee's blockchain architecture is meant to forestall this sort of thing.

2. It's not sociologically plausible because, if this poisoning was happening at this scale, it would be detected and broadly discussed on the many established 3D2A platforms (/r/3D2A, Guncad Index forums, Rocketchat, etc.) - not in the comments section of a random Substack post.

Shittinator has suggested that DJ is intentionally spreading misinformation (https://x.com/theshittinator/status/1990529154304156005). Maybe - but I prefer to first think that DJ is someone who, like lots of people, isn't super technically knowledgeable, and is partial to scary-sounding narratives.

It's easy to imagine DJ opening up a few files and seeing details / qualities that look wrong to him, or printing a file and finding that his print is out of spec. He's also heard about some nefarious group putting out bad files. It's fun and interesting to jump to the conclusion that his bad print is due to an intentionally poisoned file, and that this must be happening at a grand scale.

Of course, in the absence of further evidence, I find it much more likely that his printer is just not tuned well (should have got a Bambu :)

People like to draft and share conspiracies. It's fun. But it's a problem when, in an article that tries to help new gun printers feel comfortable printing a file safely and privately, the first thing they see in the comments section is an unproven conspiracy. DJ may or may not be intentionally spreading FUD, but even if it's not intentional, *the effect is still the same.*

This is the danger of accepting psyops at face value. The purpose of the Dagoma "file poisoning" project was almost certainly not to actually put bad files out there, *but to get people to forever worry about bad files.*

The result is that, when someone like DJ's prints don't work, their reaction is not to learn more and become better printers / gun builders, but to chalk it up to a conspiracy. And why bother growing and improving if the feds are just going to fuck you over regardless?

As a community we must learn to be realistic about our vulnerabilities and attack surfaces. We must learn when vigilance is appropriate, and when it mutates into paranoia. And we must stop spreading fear and doubt that scares new people off.

Help new people recognize the legitimate hazards and risks of gun printing, certainly - but never let this mutate into unfounded fearmongering.

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Sent you and email Alyosha. Please keep my info anynommous. Thanks

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